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Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-19T05:23:07-04:00

I am starting to think the return issues is BS also. I have already received a response from both the seller and AliExpress. The seller wanted me to commit fraud, asking me to say that the item never arrived . AliExpress offered to refund two items, but that was mostly my fault, because that was all I had photographed. I updated my photography to include all 50 and am waiting on an updated response from AliExpress.

Statistics: Posted by Cartermw — Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:23 am

Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-18T20:24:16-04:00

I have always been afraid of ordering chips, maybe with your success I will give it a try. But for cables and boxes they are my go-to. No-one is perfect, I have had issues with almost any supply house. I am still curious about the return process, I will let you know how it goes.

I think that whole “fake chips” being promoted on YouTube is BS for ratings.

Statistics: Posted by Milli — Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:24 pm

Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-18T17:44:57-04:00

I have always been afraid of ordering chips, maybe with your success I will give it a try. But for cables and boxes they are my go-to. No-one is perfect, I have had issues with almost any supply house. I am still curious about the return process, I will let you know how it goes.

Statistics: Posted by Cartermw — Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:44 pm

Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-18T17:24:02-04:00

I've never ordered anything from Ali Express. What is their reputation? I have used Bangoods before with no issues. Can't beat the prices of these Chinese outfits, at least until something goes wrong with the order...

I’ve ordered chips from them for the cartridges for CCR and have been extremely satisfied.

Statistics: Posted by Milli — Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:24 pm

Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-15T08:06:30-04:00

Good to know.

Statistics: Posted by Wmaalouli — Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:06 am

Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-14T20:04:57-04:00

Up to now I have had no issues, and everyone makes mistakes. I have just heard horror stories about trying to deal with their returns department. We will see. It is not going to stop me from shopping there, in fact I have already re-ordered the cables just from a different vendor. My biggest issue is the month long wait to get them.

Statistics: Posted by Cartermw — Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:04 pm

Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-14T08:07:18-04:00

I've never ordered anything from Ali Express. What is their reputation? I have used Bangoods before with no issues. Can't beat the prices of these Chinese outfits, at least until something goes wrong with the order...

Statistics: Posted by Wmaalouli — Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:07 am

Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-13T18:37:07-04:00

I am soooo pissed tonight. The nice DB9 controller cables I ordered from Ali Express showed up are not even close. They are actually USB OTG cables. Now begins the challenge of getting a refund from Ali. This also means that I am back to hand making cables, wether I like it or not. On the plus side the box is ready, I now just need to them to print on ABS.

Statistics: Posted by Cartermw — Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:37 pm

Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-09T21:41:12-04:00

Getting there!

Statistics: Posted by Milli — Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:41 pm

Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-08T16:58:37-04:00

Getting closer, I need to tune the design some, and see if I can get my printer to use ABS, and I should be ready to go.

Statistics: Posted by Cartermw — Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:58 pm

Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-05T10:21:23-04:00

A quick update. The more I work on the case, the less I like it. I have decided to go back to my original idea for 3D printed cases. My hope is to do the first few on my machine, and then have a shop print the rest. My challenge now is learning free cad. Up to now I have used Autodesk apps, but with them changing the license I have to do something different. Undoubtedly this will lead to another delay, but in the end I know I will be much happier, and will end up with a product I am proud of.

Statistics: Posted by Cartermw — Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:21 am

Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-01T20:50:23-04:00

Can’t wait to give this a try with CCR

Statistics: Posted by Milli — Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:50 pm

Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-01T17:02:02-04:00

Spent some time this evening testing, and I am happy to say the NeoColeco works great with the Phoenix. Unfortunately it hasn't improved my gaming skill. Oh well back to work.

Statistics: Posted by Cartermw — Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:02 pm

Re: Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-08-01T10:01:36-04:00

I am excited to say that the NeoColeco Adapter is near ready for sale. The latest PCB is close to production, I somehow flipped the X axis on the board, but can easily fix it in place, and have already fixed the issue on the next batch.
I am still trying to figure out the best rout for the power and Controller cables. I have found that the power connector I intended on using is too tall for the box and I will end up having to solder the wires directly to the board, until I find something better. As for the Controller cable, I have finally found a reasonably priced source for form factor cables and once they arrive will move to using them over the custom made cables I have right now. On a side note, if anyone needs Solder cup DB9 female connectors, let me know I have them for sale cheap.
I have acquired a set of black boxes that I believe will work well for the unit, and have a set of ivory boxes on the way. I am working on figuring the best way to cut the access holes in the box. I attempted using a Dremel rotary cutter and found it hard to control. I am hoping to have a stencil ready today and will experiment with other cutting methods in the future. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know. I would love to get either a injection molded or quality printed case, but need to determine if sales are going to justify the setup cost.
I have enough parts to build 6 units, and hope to sell them in the next two weeks. Once they sell I will have enough to purchase more parts and start larger scale production, hopefully ramping up sales in the beginning of September.

Available NeoGeo Adapters that I have found:

IntecGaming Wireless adapter for PS4, Xbox one, and Switch Pro Controller (Tested, but currently not available)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FFS9BMP/?c ... _lig_dp_it

Brooks Wired/Wireless adapter for PS3 and PS4 (Tested available and works well)
https://www.amazon.com/Mcbazel-Controll ... 529&sr=8-2
https://www.ebay.com/itm/253186171811

Sega Genesis/SNES controller to Neo-Geo MVS/AES controller adapter KIT (Arriving next week and will test)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/284382657495

N642NEOGEO Nintendo 64 controller to SNK NEO GEO converter adapter (Untested)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224521542078

GEN2NEOGEO Genesis 3B/6B joypad to SNK NEO GEO converter adapter (Untested)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224471805961

SNES2NEOGEO Nintendo SNES SFC Controller to SNK NEO GEO converter adapter (Untested)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224471839914

PSXBOXUSBHID2NEOGEO controller to SNK NEO GEO Supergun PS2/3/4/5,XBOX,SW,USBHID (Untested)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224515913516

Statistics: Posted by Cartermw — Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:01 am

Project Update NeoColeco Adapter

2021-07-06T17:08:29-04:00

As promised I am going to begin updating the community on my current projects. I would like to begin with a project I am quite excited about, if for no other reason than it is nearly done.

What is the NeoColeco Adapter: The NeoColeco Adapter is an adapter that will allow you to use a 6 button NeoGeo AES joystick or equivalent on a Colecovision or Adam.

Why: When I first started playing with the Adam I picked up a few games and quickly learned that the stock Colecovision joystick killed my aged hands. I started looking for a way to use modern more ergonomic controllers on the Colecovision. While attempting to design a Bluetooth controller adapter for the Colecovision I came across IntecGaming a company that was already making Bluetooth to joystick adapters for many of the older gaming systems. Rather than re-inventing the wheel I decided to build an adapter that would convert one of their modules to the Colecovision. After making a list of all of their modules and researching the pinouts for each the NeoGeo was the only one that could be readily designed without a microcontroller, i.e. with only discreet components. And thus the NeoColeco adapter was born.

Functionality: The NeoColeco Adapter has a static map for the up, down, left, right, fire, and trigger buttons. There are 4 dip switches that will allow you to map the C, D, Start, and Select buttons to anything on the number pad. There is a pass through port so you can plug in you current controller for more accessibility. The unit requires 5v DC to function, it will come with a MicroSD connector, but can also be equipped with any 5v DC source you find convenient.

Current State of Project: The final prototype has been built and is working perfectly. I had to fix a couple of minor issues and adjust the form factor to fit into the project boxes I decided to use. What I hope are the production boards are being fabricated in China as I type this. I hope to be selling these units late August early September for $75.00 a piece plus shipping.

Related Projects: As I was finishing the project I noticed that intecGaming was not currently selling the Bluetooth adapter. I am hoping this is simply due to the current chip shortage I wanted to come up with plan B, so I decided to begin designing daughter boards for the NeoColeco. I am getting ready to breadboard the NeoMouse board to connect a PS2 mouse to the Colecovision and the NeoGameport board to connect a Gameport joystick to the system. I am hoping I can figure out force feedback, I would love to see a version of Buck Rogers that included force feedback. I am also potentially looking at the 6 button Sega genesis and SNES (non NTT) for the future.

Bluetooth Adapter:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FFS9BMP/re ... M3V7QZKJHT

If you have any questions, concerns, or suggestions please leave a comment. And look here for all future updates on this and all of my Colecovision/Adam projects.

Statistics: Posted by Cartermw — Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:08 pm